small circuit board OB=0v

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Offline muniforever

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on: April 12, 2022, 03:49:40 PM
Hello! first time builder here. I recently completed the base level Crack with wonderful results. today while installing the 1st circuit board upgrade, I got a reading of 0v for OB point. all my voltage readings are as follows:

OA = 70
IA = 189
B-A/B = 0
IB = 189
OB = 0v

I reheated center pin of MJE-350, still reads 0v.

both right LED are not lit, including lower LED connecting A3. all LED are oriented properly


Thank you all for your help!



Offline Paul Birkeland

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Reply #1 on: April 12, 2022, 03:53:39 PM
Can you post some build photos?

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Reply #2 on: April 12, 2022, 04:11:23 PM
Here's a few, any certain connections need to be shown?



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Reply #3 on: April 12, 2022, 04:37:50 PM
If your iron has temperature adjustment, I would turn it all the way up and reheat all of the solder joints on that board other than the ones for the LEDs.

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Reply #4 on: April 12, 2022, 06:21:37 PM
All points have been checked and reheated on the board, still at -0v



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Reply #5 on: April 13, 2022, 04:09:36 AM
Can you unscrew the screws holding the board down, tilt it up, then post a photo of the bottom?

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Reply #6 on: April 13, 2022, 04:16:00 AM
The led at A3 looks like it's not soldered Cant help with Ob.

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Reply #7 on: April 13, 2022, 08:18:16 AM
A3 is soldered properly it seems, no pins touching in A or B. The amp passed all tests as a base crack and worked flawlessly for 2 weeks before I started this process, but I'm thinking I may want to do a full voltage test again? This one is stumping me.



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Reply #8 on: April 13, 2022, 09:21:12 AM
A hotter iron would definitely help flow those joints out a bit.

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Reply #9 on: April 13, 2022, 03:24:37 PM
After reheating all joints at full temp with yihua 939D+ soldering station and checking voltage with a new ideal 61-327 multimeter, OB is measuring -1.4v on 400dc mode.



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Reply #10 on: April 13, 2022, 03:36:49 PM
If you rotate the board 180 degrees and wire it back in does the 0V follow the side of the board or the terminals on the amp? (Feed OA to terminal 5, IA to 4, IB to 2, OB to 1)

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Reply #11 on: April 13, 2022, 03:44:39 PM
A1 I'm getting -1.4v as well as on B4 if that helps, but I'll try flipping board orientation 180 and I'll get back to you.



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Reply #12 on: April 14, 2022, 08:29:57 AM
Good day! Thank you for helping me with this process, I really appreciate it. I just flipped the board orientation 180°, and the problem followed that side of the board over to 1st terminal. Faulty JME-350 on that side, perhaps?



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Reply #13 on: April 14, 2022, 08:48:07 AM
Faulty transistors typically fail short, so you wouldn't see 0V.  You could very carefully apply just a little more heat to the LED solder joints as well just to be sure they are well soldered as well.

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Reply #14 on: April 14, 2022, 09:21:36 AM
Reheated led connections carefully, still at -1.4v.