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Offline John EH

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Reply #15 on: June 26, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
I resoldered every hook up wire on the regulator board and now I have faint glow in three LED's. Voltages are the same.

John



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Reply #16 on: June 26, 2013, 04:47:49 PM
Can you do the I/O pads on each of the outboard boards as well?

Is the center 12AU7 glowing?  It would appear to not be operational at this point.

-PB

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Reply #17 on: June 26, 2013, 04:56:09 PM
Can you do the I/O pads on each of the outboard boards as well?

Is the center 12AU7 glowing?  It would appear to not be operational at this point.

-PB

Regulator 12AU7 is glowing

Left Board
A side
I - 162.7
O - 95
B side
I - 0
O - 96

Right Board
A side
I - 163
O - 75
B side
I - 0
O - 78

Obviously I need to see why I'm not getting any I voltage on the B sides.






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Reply #18 on: June 26, 2013, 05:09:26 PM
Check to see if you have all of the jumpers on the boards. It is pretty easy to miss one.

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Reply #19 on: June 26, 2013, 05:14:43 PM
All jumpers installed.  5 on the reg board and one each on the grounds of the C4S boards.  All ohm out ok.



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Reply #20 on: June 26, 2013, 05:16:33 PM
The "I" on the B side is the ground, don't look too hard into that ;)

At this point, you could actually listen to your preamp, which is good, but the regulation is still off.

Is there any way you can post a photo of the center C4S board?

Also, it is good to double check that the wires leaving the Kreg pads are going to the appropriate tube socket pins. 

-PB

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Reply #21 on: June 26, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Yeah I saw that when I saw the wire running to the center tube socket!  Ha ha.

It's working and sounds damn good.

Stand by for the photo



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Reply #22 on: June 26, 2013, 05:32:02 PM
Photo.  Only thing of note is the LED I subbed which I mentioned in the first post.  Radio shack 276-026a. 



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Reply #23 on: June 26, 2013, 05:33:24 PM
Oh yeah K wires go to R3 and R8



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Reply #24 on: June 26, 2013, 05:45:27 PM
In the photo the B end upper LED is the one not lit.  The other three are very dim.  My subbed LED is dim.  Ohm meter diode setting says they are installed correctly.

I followed the trace at the top of the board to the last LED leg in the line and got 1.8v with the diode checker.

They all seem to have 166 (or so) volts on both sides of each one.



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Reply #25 on: June 26, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
Oh yeah K wires go to R3 and R8

Yes, they should, but if you have them switched, things fall apart.

You can set your meter to the continuity beep, then put one probe on + on the A side.  Either pin 1 or pin 6 will beep for that connection.  Now move your probe to the K pad on that side, then move to the accompanying cathode (3 for 1, 8 for 6) and you should get continuity. 

If they are switched, the regulators can't keep things in balance.

That dim LED could be from the adjacent R1 not being well soldered.

-PB

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Reply #26 on: June 26, 2013, 05:54:29 PM
Oh yeah K wires go to R3 and R8

Yes, they should, but if you have them switched, things fall apart.

You can set your meter to the continuity beep, then put one probe on + on the A side.  Either pin 1 or pin 6 will beep for that connection.  Now move your probe to the K pad on that side, then move to the accompanying cathode (3 for 1, 8 for 6) and you should get continuity. 

If they are switched, the regulators can't keep things in balance.

That dim LED could be from the adjacent R1 not being well soldered.

-PB

On + pin one beeps.  Moving to K makes pin 3 beep.

I'll reheat the R1's



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Reply #27 on: June 26, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
Reheated the R1's and K's.  Same same.  3 dim LED lights.  Voltages the same.



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Reply #28 on: June 26, 2013, 06:07:09 PM
Regulator tube PLENTY hot too



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Reply #29 on: June 26, 2013, 06:12:55 PM
Can you swap in a different 12AU7 to the center socket?  Everything looks just spot on, but the 12AU7 is not cooperating.

Paul "PB" Birkeland

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