Crack - specific headphone kit?

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on: January 23, 2014, 11:05:13 AM
Seems like the entry level headphone for Crack listening is something like a used HD600 for maybe $250 used. Would there be any interest in a kit that starts with a very bang for the buck good sounding headphone and modifies it with improved cabling, damping and electrical tweaking to optimize it for the Crack? Price might be in the $100-$150 range, including the headphones. Not saying it will stomp HD600s, but so far I'm pretty happy with our experiments and one nice advantage is the design has a closed back.

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Offline denti alligator

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Reply #1 on: January 23, 2014, 12:05:44 PM
Yes. Would also be cool if it worked well with the Quickie modded for 'phones.

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Reply #2 on: January 23, 2014, 12:08:56 PM
I'd be interested in a closed back set of phones, that's about my price point for new toys too.

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Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 10:13:16 PM
Sounds interesting can I pre order? A closed set of cans optimize for the Crack would make a great bedside rig ideal for relaxed late listening.  My other half would be please about less leakage. A Headphone, Crack+Speedball bundle would be nice!



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Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 06:20:29 AM
I ordered some parts yesterday that should help me to see just how close I can get to what I have in mind. They should be here next week and we will get a little deeper into the project.

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Reply #5 on: January 24, 2014, 07:35:22 AM
Could such a kit could be ordered from something like a Chinese menu, say select the version from column "A" (set up for rock-n-roll = more slam), or from Column "B" (optimized for classical listening = genteel slam + greater extension), or maybe from Column "C" (for jazz listening or female vocals = extended dynamic range and a focus on the mids)?


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Reply #6 on: January 24, 2014, 07:57:24 AM
My plan is to develop the design to where it sounds the way I like, and in my experience you really want the same characteristics for all kinds of music. Certainly a person could take whatever we sell and modify it further to taste.

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Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 09:39:11 AM
Count me in as interested.  I'd love a closed back alternative to my HD600s.

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Reply #8 on: January 24, 2014, 12:16:36 PM
Interesting to see what you guys come up with.



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Reply #9 on: January 24, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
I am interested as well!



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Reply #10 on: January 24, 2014, 07:50:01 PM
I'm in!



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Reply #11 on: January 25, 2014, 01:15:36 AM
I'm interested as well!

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Reply #12 on: January 27, 2014, 02:21:47 PM
I did some more experimentation regarding this project today, with damping and loading. While I need proud papa syndrome to wear off before I can make a useful comment about the sound, I think we may have something quite viable. Suffice it to say I was head bobbing and found myself putting the experimental cans on in place of HD800s without being terribly let down. The sound is  different, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact there were some things I liked better from the experiment than I was hearing from the 800s. Bear in mind this is specifically with Crack as the source. With Mainline I suspect the 800s would walk away from the experimental cans, as they are being tuned specifically for Crack.

We have a couple of different cable samples on the way and some plugs. That will be the next step in experimentation. There are also some different pads on order.

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Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 03:31:00 PM
I'd commit to a pre-order. That price range is well within my experimentation budget. I'm all about having fun listening to the music, don't really care if it doesn't measure flat.

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Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 05:42:45 AM
I would be interested. I got some Skullcandy headphones for Christmas and they have convinced me that I would like to use headphones but need something better, especially more comfortable.

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