Painting bases

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Offline Paul Folbrecht

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on: March 09, 2014, 11:30:10 AM
I did a search here on paint and, amazingly, found 11 pages of hits regarding painting the top plate & bells, etc., little (maybe none) on painting the wood base of Bottlehead products.  Sure, painting wood is simple and a general skill, but experienced BH builders still might have some good advice.

I want a black base to go with other gear.  I plan to use a rattle-can satin spray, sanding with 220 before the first coat and between light coats - three total.

Sound good?



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Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 11:40:30 AM
Sounds fine but I'd add a couple of dark primer coats prior to the satin, 220 (or finer, I prefer 400) sanding in between.

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Reply #2 on: March 09, 2014, 11:43:39 AM
If you don't want the grain to show through you will need to use a sanding sealer and then a high-build base coat which you can then sand back to a smooth finish, then spray paint.  A spray paint especially black will show up every little imperfection, meticulous prep is key to getting a good spray paint finish.

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Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 12:54:36 PM
If you want to paint a base black, I would recommend using a good quality flat latex paint. Use just a paint brush. Unless you have equipment to spray paint, it is difficult to make a nice finish when using gloss black paint, - either in latex or oil. You will find attached my first Bottlehead kit: a Crack.  It is finished with flat latex. If it gets scratched [or bruised], it just takes a minute or two to re-apply a quick drying latex. 

When I did my Paramounts and Bee-Pre, I finished the bases in Pimento Wood Burl veneer.  That is a lot more work, but the results are great, - if I humbly may say so.  If anyone is interested, I shall be happy to advise on how to do that process.

Photos are attached.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 02:00:43 PM by Guy Boisvert »



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Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 01:07:57 PM
Or you could apply a black wood dye and get a nice ebony look that lets the natural grain peek through a bit.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trancho.net%2FHC%2Fcrack_1.jpg&hash=b47f82e31a2ac9ad80f45e2dfd56afc69ea06e6e)

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Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 01:09:42 PM
Guy nice work I remember seeing them in the gallery just looked back again and all the pics have been corrupted during website change, any chance you could upload the original pics again.

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Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 01:35:02 PM
Or you could apply a black wood dye and get a nice ebony look that lets the natural grain peek through a bit.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trancho.net%2FHC%2Fcrack_1.jpg&hash=b47f82e31a2ac9ad80f45e2dfd56afc69ea06e6e)

That looks great.  I think I'll do that.  If you have a specific brand of dye recommendation and/or other tips please share.



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Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Jamie, here are the Paramounts with the Pimento Burl bases

Guy



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Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 01:59:38 PM
When I did my Paramounts and Bee-Pre, I finished the bases in Pimento Wood Burl veneer.  That is a lot more work, but the results are great, - if I humbly may say so.  If anyone is interested, I shall be happy to advise on how to do that process.

Yes please, I would definitely be interested in more detail of the veneering process.



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Reply #9 on: March 09, 2014, 02:12:52 PM
Or you could apply a black wood dye and get a nice ebony look that lets the natural grain peek through a bit.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trancho.net%2FHC%2Fcrack_1.jpg&hash=b47f82e31a2ac9ad80f45e2dfd56afc69ea06e6e)

That looks great.  I think I'll do that.  If you have a specific brand of dye recommendation and/or other tips please share.

I bought the water based dye from Tools for Working Wood.  Here's a link to the dye page of their web shop.
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/dept/CLWW

Read up a bit on using dyes (they have some info on the TFWW site above).  The dye raises the grain so you need to do some prep before hand and then some judicious sanding after.  You can then apply a clear finish of your choice when it's all dry.  I used satin wipe-on polyurethane - several coats with light 400 grit sanding in between.

The dyes come in many different colors, as well as the more normal wood colors, as you can see.  Best of luck with your base!

Bob Trancho


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Reply #10 on: March 09, 2014, 02:31:14 PM
If you have a plastics fabricator near by, you could have a thick black acrylic base made relatively easily.

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Reply #11 on: March 09, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
Jamie, here are the Paramounts with the Pimento Burl bases

Guy

Beautiful work guy and a real credit to you.

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Reply #12 on: March 09, 2014, 11:20:32 PM
If you have a plastics fabricator near by, you could have a thick black acrylic base made relatively easily.

I did ponder over casting a enclosure with some water clear casting resin (the stuff they use for paper weights etc) I don't think it would be to hard to do for a small enclosure like the Cracks.
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Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 01:44:12 AM


I did wonder about ponder over casting a enclosure with some water clear casting resin (the stuff they use for paper weights etc) I don't think it would be to hard to do for a small enclosure like the Cracks.

Okay, off topic a bit but your post reminds me of this Cmoy project from a few years ago.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.instructables.com%2FF4N%2FPDZH%2FH21CGJK0%2FF4NPDZHH21CGJK0.MEDIUM.jpg&hash=4b72ff922d908d16ea2c5fc11b3df92b5d1b80e6)

Full project description here:
 http://www.instructables.com/id/Crystal-cMoy-Free-Form-Headphone-Amplifier/

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Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 01:52:03 AM


I did wonder about ponder over casting a enclosure with some water clear casting resin (the stuff they use for paper weights etc) I don't think it would be to hard to do for a small enclosure like the Cracks.

Okay, off topic a bit but your post reminds me of this Cmoy project from a few years ago.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.instructables.com%2FF4N%2FPDZH%2FH21CGJK0%2FF4NPDZHH21CGJK0.MEDIUM.jpg&hash=4b72ff922d908d16ea2c5fc11b3df92b5d1b80e6)

Full project description here:
 http://www.instructables.com/id/Crystal-cMoy-Free-Form-Headphone-Amplifier/

Thanks for posting I think that's really neat, and very tempting to try.

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