High voltage on terminal 1

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Offline pdrm360

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on: April 13, 2014, 12:42:27 PM
I have scratchy/crackling sound issues with my Crack + speedball.  After the voltage check I found a high variable voltage (140~190 VDC) on the terminal 1, B1 and B4.  What could be the issues?  Thanks!
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Offline Doc B.

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Reply #1 on: April 13, 2014, 04:24:51 PM
Sounds like a loose connection.

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Reply #2 on: April 13, 2014, 05:19:15 PM
Could a bad tube be cause of this issues?



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Reply #3 on: April 13, 2014, 05:33:51 PM
Check the other voltages, especially the 12AU7 socket. Do the tube heaters glow? LEDs?

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Reply #4 on: April 13, 2014, 06:30:16 PM
Terminal/Voltage(VDC)

1. 80~190
2. 180
3. 0
4. 184
5. 75
6. 0
7. 182
8. 0
9. 111
10. 0

A1 76
A2 0
A3 1.6
A4 0
A5 0
A6 182
A7 0
A8 1.6
A9 0

B1 80~190
B2 185
B3 180
B4 75
B5 185
B6 110
B7 0
B8 0

The LEDs in the the 12AU7 socket are lighting fine
The right side LED on the A board is blinking
The left side LED on the A board and the LEDs on the B board have a very low light. 

Thanks!



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Reply #5 on: April 13, 2014, 06:55:05 PM
I haven't found any loose connection and the tubes heaters glow.



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Reply #6 on: April 14, 2014, 05:21:46 AM
This sure sounds like a loose connection, or a flaky solder joint.

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Reply #7 on: April 14, 2014, 07:50:19 AM
Thanks everyone!

Are suspected in an area or part of the loose connection?  I've not found any  loose connection so far.  :-\



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Reply #8 on: April 14, 2014, 08:34:30 AM
You can try swapping the small boards right to left, if the voltage issue migrates to terminal 5, you have a flaky connection on the board.

If it doesn't move, you have a flaky connection at A8, A7, or A6, and the parts those connect to.

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Reply #9 on: April 14, 2014, 08:49:49 AM
Will do.  Thanks for your help and guidance!



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Reply #10 on: April 14, 2014, 04:16:23 PM
You can try swapping the small boards right to left, if the voltage issue migrates to terminal 5, you have a flaky connection on the board.

If it doesn't move, you have a flaky connection at A8, A7, or A6, and the parts those connect to.

I swapped the small boards. Here are the new voltages:

1. 79
2. 194
3. 0
4. 195
5. 75
6. 0

A1 80~100+
A2 0
A3 1.6
A4 0
A5 0
A6 79
A7 0
A8 1.6
A9 0

What do you think? Thanks!



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Reply #11 on: April 14, 2014, 05:12:08 PM
Since A1 is connected to terminal 5, can you see if the voltage is jumpy there also?

-PB

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Reply #12 on: April 14, 2014, 06:54:10 PM
Since A1 is connected to terminal 5, can you see if the voltage is jumpy there also?

-PB

Yes, the voltage is jumpy.

Update: I removed the Speedball, now the Crack is working fine. 

It looks one of the TIP-50 transistors has a issues, the left side lead and the right side one have connectivity from both sides. I'm not sure if it's all the Speedball issues though.   



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Reply #13 on: April 14, 2014, 07:18:52 PM
The TIP-50 transistors are on the larger PC board, which seems to be OK.

I believe you may have a flaky solder joint on that small PC board that is now feeding terminal 5.

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Reply #14 on: April 14, 2014, 07:38:22 PM
The TIP-50 transistors are on the larger PC board, which seems to be OK.

I believe you may have a flaky solder joint on that small PC board that is now feeding terminal 5.

Two of the LEDs on the larger board didn't have light.

I've checked the all the joint connections on the small boards, but Yes, the A board doesn't work as same as the B board.