Introducing Seductor, our latest amp!

Doc B. · 45161

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Sugar Man

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 127
    • The Last Honest Lawyer
Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 02:59:10 PM
Too. Many. Choices. Just when I was leaning towards a one-box wonder Stereomour, you bring out the Seductor and all it's options.  Better go pour myself a Scotch and ponder the possibilities... :o

Mike "Stein" Ayotte

Current Gear:

Elekit TU-8600 300B w/Lundahl Trannies
Herron Audio VTPH-2a
Rega RP8 w/ Apheta 2
Bluesound Node 2i
Audio Note E Speaker Kit-04 w/ AlNiCo drivers

Stereomour II w/ Jupiters
Eros w/ Mundorf Silver Oils
Blumenstein Orcas & Subs


Offline Paul Birkeland

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 19850
Reply #16 on: September 08, 2014, 03:28:28 PM
Choices are a good thing!

Paul "PB" Birkeland

Bottlehead Grunt & The Repro Man


Offline WK3K

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 83
  • Beginning to see the light...
Reply #17 on: September 09, 2014, 05:30:38 AM
Seductor Vs. SEX. I'm trying to decide which would be a better match for my system. I've got a Quickie and was looking at getting some Blumenstein Orcas. Who will play the nicest together?

Thanks!

Witold

Witold

Rega P3-24 w/ Rega Exact > Eros II> Quickie w/PJCCS > Stereomour II w/ DC filament supply > Blumenstein Orca Mini/Max 2.1

MacBook > Grace SDAC > Crack w/ Speedball > Sennheiser HD6XX


Offline Paul Birkeland

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 19850
Reply #18 on: September 09, 2014, 05:41:41 AM
If you don't plan on using headphones, then go for the Seductor.

-PB

Paul "PB" Birkeland

Bottlehead Grunt & The Repro Man


Offline Doc B.

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 9676
    • Bottlehead
Reply #19 on: September 09, 2014, 05:59:32 AM
We're gonna do a write up to a logical approach to combining things. But in the meantime a good rule of thimb is if it comes with a volume knob (S.E.X., Stereomour, Crack, Mainline) it was not really intended to have a preamp (Quickie, Smash, BeePre) ahead of it. If it has no volume control (Quicksand,Seductor, Paramount) it needs a control preamp (Quickie, Smash, BeePre) or at least a passive controller (Submissive) ahead of it.

Dan "Doc B." Schmalle
President For Life
Bottlehead Corp.


Offline WK3K

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 83
  • Beginning to see the light...
Reply #20 on: September 09, 2014, 06:31:41 AM
Very good. Thank you Gentlemen!

Witold

Rega P3-24 w/ Rega Exact > Eros II> Quickie w/PJCCS > Stereomour II w/ DC filament supply > Blumenstein Orca Mini/Max 2.1

MacBook > Grace SDAC > Crack w/ Speedball > Sennheiser HD6XX


Offline tjessen

  • Jr. Member
  • **
    • Posts: 29
  • Reduction/Crack/Quickie
Reply #21 on: September 10, 2014, 05:40:25 PM
Now how about S.E.X vs. Smash/Seductor vs. Stereomour for the Blumenstein Orcas? Just curious.

Trent Rosa


Offline Paul Birkeland

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 19850
Reply #22 on: September 10, 2014, 05:46:57 PM
Now how about S.E.X vs. Smash/Seductor vs. Stereomour for the Blumenstein Orcas? Just curious.
Stereomour will sound the best.
SEX will do the job, and drive headphones.
Seductor will be in between, offering more power than the SEX, but not the level of fidelity of the Stereomour.  It will also require a line stage or other manner of volume control in front of it.

Paul "PB" Birkeland

Bottlehead Grunt & The Repro Man


Offline tjessen

  • Jr. Member
  • **
    • Posts: 29
  • Reduction/Crack/Quickie
Reply #23 on: September 10, 2014, 05:51:42 PM
Stereomour will sound the best.
SEX will do the job, and drive headphones.
Seductor will be in between, offering more power than the SEX, but not the level of fidelity of the Stereomour.  It will also require a line stage or other manner of volume control in front of it.

Thanks for clarifying that, I was just curious to see if the Smash/Seductor would be of greater resolution than the Stereomour despite the cost difference, however I suppose that is the advantage of the Stereomour being integrated.

Trent Rosa


Offline Paul Birkeland

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 19850
Reply #24 on: September 10, 2014, 05:53:48 PM
Thanks for clarifying that, I was just curious to see if the Smash/Seductor would be of greater resolution than the Stereomour despite the cost difference, however I suppose that is the advantage of the Stereomour being integrated.
The advantage to Seductor/Smash is modularity and upgrade potential.  The Smash will (shortly) have a C4S/shunt regulator upgrade, as well as taking the BeeQuiet.  The Seductor is also incredibly versatile in terms of tube rolling, we will have more on that shortly!

-PB
« Last Edit: September 10, 2014, 05:58:24 PM by Caucasian Blackplate »

Paul "PB" Birkeland

Bottlehead Grunt & The Repro Man


Offline Doc B.

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 9676
    • Bottlehead
Reply #25 on: September 12, 2014, 01:29:03 PM
Thanks to everyone who took advantage of the pre-release pricing of the first ten kits!

Dan "Doc B." Schmalle
President For Life
Bottlehead Corp.


Offline fullheadofnothing

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 1487
  • A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man
Reply #26 on: September 22, 2014, 11:21:19 AM
I just edited the first post of this thread to include a picture of the underside of a completed Seductor.

Joshua Harris

I Write the Manuals That Make The Whole World Sing
Kit Packer Emeritus


Offline Natural Sound

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 998
Reply #27 on: September 22, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
I just edited the first post of this thread to include a picture of the underside of a completed Seductor.

Thanks for the update, Josh. That's a real nice clean layout. Something we've come to expect from Bottlehead. Keep up the great work.



Offline KevO

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 74
Reply #28 on: September 23, 2014, 09:16:44 AM
Looks nice. Great price!

Can you tell me the output impedance of Seductor and Paramount?

Thanks,
Kevin



Offline Doc B.

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 9676
    • Bottlehead
Reply #29 on: September 23, 2014, 09:24:19 AM
I will let PJ weigh in on the actual output impedance of each amp. Seductor can be wired for 2,4,8 and 16 ohm loudspeakers. Strapped as a mono amp the taps would be 4,8,16 and 32 ohms. Paramount can be wired for 4,8 and 16 ohm loudspeakers.

Dan "Doc B." Schmalle
President For Life
Bottlehead Corp.