Speedball LED issues [resolved]

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Offline antjuneau

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on: September 13, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
I've assembled a Crack and all the resistances are accurate but when I plug in the tubes and fire her up most of my voltages are low and I'm not getting any sound in my headphones (not even a buzz). I've checked all the solder connections several times. Anybody know what the issue is? Here's what I'm getting:

1 - (-1.04)
2 - (-1.02)
3 - 0
4 - (-1.02)
5 - (-1.02)
6 - 0
7 - 0
8 - 0
9 - 0
10 - 0
11 - 0
12 - 0
13 - (-1.02)
14 - 0
15 - (-1.02)
16 - 0
17 - 0
18 - 78.2
19 - 75.7
20 - 0
21 - 235
22 - 0
A1 - (-0.9)
A2 - 0
A3 - (0.41)
A4 - 0
A5 - 0
A6 - (-1.04)
A7 - 0
A8 - (0.56)
A9 -0
B1 - (-1.04)
B2 - (-1.02)
B3 - 0
B4 - (-1.02)
B5 - (-1.02)
B6 - 0
B7 - 0
B8 - 0

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Offline Paul Birkeland

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Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 06:18:29 AM
First things first, if your voltage checks are way off DO NOT PLUG IN YOUR HEADPHONES!!!

OK, now that we've gotten that out of the way, are the tubes glowing?  (Is the fuse installed?)

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Reply #2 on: September 14, 2015, 12:33:01 PM
First things first, if your voltage checks are way off DO NOT PLUG IN YOUR HEADPHONES!!!

OK, now that we've gotten that out of the way, are the tubes glowing?  (Is the fuse installed?)

Yes, fuse installed and tubes are glowing.



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Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 05:08:13 PM
The resistor between 15 and 21 is where the DC voltage interruption is.  Carefully wiggle it with the amp off, I'd imagine it's not well soldered.

Be careful, it will take some time for the voltage at 21 to bleed off.

If that resistor isn't loose, it should be getting hot enough to start smoking, which I'm guessing it's not. 

It's also possible that one of the black wires may be loose in the power supply, I'd suggest inspecting everything carefully.

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Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 05:10:45 PM
The resistor between 15 and 21 is where the DC voltage interruption is.  Carefully wiggle it with the amp off, I'd imagine it's not well soldered.

Be careful, it will take some time for the voltage at 21 to bleed off.

If that resistor isn't loose, it should be getting hot enough to start smoking, which I'm guessing it's not. 

It's also possible that one of the black wires may be loose in the power supply, I'd suggest inspecting everything carefully.

Great! Thanks! I'm not at home to try this fix right now but I will give it a shot tomorrow and report back.



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Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 04:44:04 PM
The resistor between 15 and 21 is where the DC voltage interruption is.  Carefully wiggle it with the amp off, I'd imagine it's not well soldered.

Be careful, it will take some time for the voltage at 21 to bleed off.

If that resistor isn't loose, it should be getting hot enough to start smoking, which I'm guessing it's not. 

It's also possible that one of the black wires may be loose in the power supply, I'd suggest inspecting everything carefully.

The resistor is connected and cool, and all the black wires in the power supply are connected well.

I did notice just now that I'm picking up infinite resistance across the black/grey resistor connecting terminals 19 & 21. Do I need a new one?



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Reply #6 on: September 16, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
The resistor is connected and cool, and all the black wires in the power supply are connected well.

I did notice just now that I'm picking up infinite resistance across the black/grey resistor connecting terminals 19 & 21. Do I need a new one?


Nevermind, thats a diode not a resisitor. I have checked every single connection multiple times and am still at a loss! Any other ideas?



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Reply #7 on: September 16, 2015, 05:42:15 PM
Any other ideas?
Post photos and maybe we can see something that isn't otherwise apparent.  You are getting the high voltage that you should be, just not past the first 270 Ohm resistor.  With the amp off, you can measure that resistor with your DVM just to check to be sure that it's still 270 Ohms (or thereabouts).


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Reply #8 on: September 16, 2015, 06:25:21 PM
Post photos and maybe we can see something that isn't otherwise apparent.  You are getting the high voltage that you should be, just not past the first 270 Ohm resistor.  With the amp off, you can measure that resistor with your DVM just to check to be sure that it's still 270 Ohms (or thereabouts).

My meter is showing that the resistance on the 270 ohm resistor is actually a few hundred thousand. It fluctuates so I can't give an exact value, but it's definitely way higher than 270 ohms. The other 270 ohm resistor between terminals 13 and 15 is reading 268 ohms.



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Reply #9 on: September 16, 2015, 07:29:55 PM
I'd give a replacement a shot.  To check the rest of the circuit, you can solder a piece of wire across that resistor, but the amp will be noisy and can't be used until that resistor is replaced (replacement parts can send another one in the mail).

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Reply #10 on: September 20, 2015, 01:11:09 PM
Just got the replacement resistor in the mail. I checked the resistance across, and it checked out - 270 ohms. So I un-solder the old one and solder in the new one and check the resistance again - 270 ohms. Then I plug in tubes and fire her up... smoke! So I turn it off and check all parts around the power supply to make sure it's all still wired properly. It checks out. I turn it back on and don't see smoke so I decide to check voltages... same as before. Low voltage everywhere. Then I check the resistor I replaced and notice the leads look oxidized. I check it with the meter and the resistance is through the roof - over 2 million.

Apparently both resistors have been burnt up when I turn the amp on. I am extremely frustrated. What's causing me to burn up the 15/21 resistor? Any ideas? I can post pictures if nobody has any ideas off the top of their head.



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Reply #11 on: September 20, 2015, 03:46:29 PM
Recheck your resistaces, you have a short somewhere in the amplifier. 

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Reply #12 on: September 20, 2015, 08:31:32 PM
A picture or three might help

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Reply #13 on: September 22, 2015, 04:31:06 AM
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Reply #14 on: September 22, 2015, 04:37:43 AM
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