120V to 220V higher readings, 2nd problem noticeable hum both channels

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I assembled a S3X with C4S upgrade wired for 120V. All voltages checked out fine. However, when I modified it for 220V I am getting higher readings. I assume the voltages would be cut in half but a few of the terminals are now reading higher. Other terminals seem to be ok. Using 120V AC line voltage

2 is reading ~250V
OA and OB are reading ~250V

I resoldered all the wiring on the main transformer but still got the same readings
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Reply #1 on: July 31, 2019, 12:54:27 PM
These issues are not from your rewiring of the power transformer wiring unless you have many, many other voltages that are all out of whack.

What are you getting a terminals 3/17?

Can you carefully measure the DC voltage at pin 9 on each tube? 

It could also help if you posted photos of the build if the problem is not immediately apparent.

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Reply #2 on: July 31, 2019, 06:18:11 PM
I rewired it back to 120v to retest the voltages. Everything checked out normal. Wired to 120V, pin 9 read 2 or 3 volts
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Reply #3 on: July 31, 2019, 06:22:45 PM
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Reply #4 on: July 31, 2019, 06:23:52 PM
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Reply #5 on: July 31, 2019, 07:14:41 PM
I rewired it back to 120v to retest the voltages. Everything checked out normal. Wired to 120V, pin 9 read 2 or 3 volts
Is that in the 220V configuration?

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Reply #6 on: August 01, 2019, 08:45:38 AM
That's in the 120V configuration. I'm going to try the 220V configuration today and check it again and post my readings



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Reply #7 on: August 01, 2019, 09:58:55 AM
Tested it on the 220v configuration again.

2   243v
3   3v
4   0v
5   0v
6   249v
7   263v
10 260v

Pin 9 A/B   2v

16   159v
17   4v
18   0v
19   0v
20   241v
21   261v
24   257v

H2, H5   +2v
H4, H7   -2v



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Reply #8 on: August 01, 2019, 10:20:23 AM
Can you do the test on page 35 and let us know what you find?

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Reply #9 on: August 01, 2019, 11:05:46 AM
4v at 7 and 9
103v at 11 and 12



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Reply #10 on: August 01, 2019, 12:03:51 PM
What is your incoming AC line voltage?

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Reply #11 on: August 01, 2019, 12:13:35 PM
120v



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Reply #12 on: August 01, 2019, 12:15:10 PM
OK, so why are you wiring your amp for 220V of incoming voltage? 

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Reply #13 on: August 01, 2019, 12:47:57 PM
I built this for a customer who lives in the UK and don't have a step-up transformer to test it. I could get one if that's what I really need but I thought the voltages would come out lower not higher on some of the readings
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Reply #14 on: August 01, 2019, 01:23:16 PM
Yes, you need to use a step-up transformer to test the amp once you've wired it for 220V.  Without adequate heater voltage, the tubes won't conduct, so most of the voltage readings are pretty meaningless.

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