Timothy C’s Moreplay Build

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Offline AG

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Reply #15 on: March 28, 2024, 02:41:01 PM
Hi,
 There is plenty of wire in the kit, I will recommend to cut them 7 to 10 mm" longer than the instruction require.
longer wire could be acomodated, shorter ones are a pain.

Cheers from Fla.
Andre.

“Without music life would be a mistake”


Offline Paul Birkeland

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Reply #16 on: March 28, 2024, 05:59:05 PM
I’ll go slow because as the manual says, there’s no prize for fastest build  ;D
Yes, this is a good plan. 

Paul "PB" Birkeland

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Reply #17 on: April 01, 2024, 06:43:34 PM
Over the weekend I:
1. Measured mains voltage (245V)
2. Finished wiring up the power transformer for over 230V
3. Checked voltage across power transformer terminals 6 and 7 (9.6V, within spec of 8-10 VAC), and across terminals 9 and 10 (121.5V, within spec of 110-130 VAC)

So far so good except I accidentally cut one wire 1" too long and had to trim it off. Hopefully there's still enough wire for everything else!!



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Reply #18 on: April 02, 2024, 04:59:21 AM
You definitely win the award for high line voltage!  I think your power supply DC voltages will come out a little bit high, but don't let that stop you.

Paul "PB" Birkeland

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Reply #19 on: April 02, 2024, 02:59:02 PM
Indeed!

I’m hoping to eventually get a PS Audio power regenerator second hand to bring the mains going to my gear down to between 230-235V.



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Reply #20 on: April 02, 2024, 03:45:43 PM
You can do that with a Variable Output Transformer. Doesn't do any power conditioning, but you can dial in the desired voltage. See Pic.

Scott
[Ortofon 2M Bronze > U-Turn Theory > Eros II] & [iMac via USB > Denafrips Ares 2] >> Moreplay >> Schiit Lokius EQ >> Stereomour II >> Hsu ULS-15 Sub >> homemade DML Speakers
Moreplay 2nd out >> [Crack + Speedball > HD 650]


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Reply #21 on: April 03, 2024, 06:03:34 AM
Thank you @hmbscott for the suggestion! I'll look into it.

I completed the heater wiring and confirmed that both tubes glow. Let there be light!

I also purchased a set of dials from AG  ;D

I'm curious what brand of tubes I've received with the kit. Anyone here able to read Russian and can enlighten me please? :)



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Reply #22 on: April 03, 2024, 06:36:46 AM
Those are Russian tubes built during the Soviet era by, I believe, Reflektor.  Good tubes.  They came stock with my Moreplay as well.  Depending on your tastes and level of curiosity, they might be all the 6V6 you need.  To my ears they sound more like old U.S. 6V6s like GE, Sylvania, and RCA than they sound like 6V6s made currently in Russia, China, and the Czech Republic.  (And I mean that as a compliment.)

Larry


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Reply #23 on: April 04, 2024, 05:09:47 AM
Thanks @Larpy for the information! That’s a pretty cool name, and also the name of an Arcade Fire album I think.



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Reply #24 on: April 05, 2024, 05:58:00 PM
Help!  :(

I'm failing the raw B+ voltage test. I repeated the test 3 times and got the following peak VDC read outs: 331.2, 330.7, 331.1. The spec is 280 - 320V.

I've checked all the wiring for connectivity using my DMM and it seems like everything that's supposed to be connected passes the connectivity test. I've also confirmed the polarities of the caps and diodes are correct.

Could my raw B+ voltage be exceeding 320V because, as @Paul Birkeland noted, my mains voltage is so high (245VAC)?

Or is it definitely failing the test because of a workmanship error? If it's definitely workmanship, any advice on what else I should check besides polarity and connectivity?

The cap connected across terminals 23 and 21 is rated for 350V so there's low risk to that component. But I don't know whether the components being supplied by this DC voltage will be okay receiving 331V...

Any guidance would be much appreciated!



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Reply #25 on: April 05, 2024, 07:34:19 PM
Your line voltage is about 5% high, so you can expect your B+ to also be about 5% high, which means it will fall within a range of 295 - 335 VDC, and it does. So I don't think there's anything wrong with your wiring, it's your high line voltage. I can't say if it's OK or not.

Scott
[Ortofon 2M Bronze > U-Turn Theory > Eros II] & [iMac via USB > Denafrips Ares 2] >> Moreplay >> Schiit Lokius EQ >> Stereomour II >> Hsu ULS-15 Sub >> homemade DML Speakers
Moreplay 2nd out >> [Crack + Speedball > HD 650]


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Reply #26 on: April 05, 2024, 07:55:46 PM
So-called "230v" power grids combine/compromise the older standards of 220v and 240v, but many of the older generators are still in use. For this reason, the Moreplay power transformer can be set for 220 or 240 - but not for 230. I think that gives our customers a better chance of getting close to optimum power. That means that Timmie's voltages are only 1% high. The circuit can withstand +/-10% variation without loss of performance or reliability.

Paul Joppa


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Reply #27 on: April 05, 2024, 09:26:29 PM
Thank you everyone for the guidance! Good to know that I don’t need to worry about loss of performance or reliability and can proceed with the build  :)

Next up, audio circuit wiring!



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Reply #28 on: April 06, 2024, 05:58:33 AM
Audio circuit is done and connectivity tests seem to check out.

On to input wiring tomorrow!



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Reply #29 on: April 06, 2024, 07:46:55 AM
Nice and clean soldering! my hat off.
AG.

“Without music life would be a mistake”