Orientation Of Capacitors In The Stereomour

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on: May 30, 2011, 09:42:25 AM
Hi All,

Just received several new parts for my Stereomour and have another question. The capacitors that I purchased ,Auricap, to replace the stock coupling and parafeed capacitors have a red wire sticking out of one end and a black one sticking out of the other. This indicates to me that polarity is important to the cap. I can find no polarity marking on the stock caps. Before I mess up an expensive cap by putting them in "backwards"; can someone guide me as to what is right?

Brian



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Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 09:49:19 AM
Auricaps do not have a "polarity" but one end is the outer winding of the capacitor, the red (correction) Black lead.  That end should be the output of the cap the black lead the input of the cap.  So for the interstage cap black to the 12AT7, red to the 2A3 grid.  For the Parafeed cap, black to the 2A3 plate and red to the transformer lead.

Here is their site:

http://www.audience-av.com/capacitors/a_applications.php
« Last Edit: May 30, 2011, 02:00:13 PM by Grainger49 »



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Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 12:29:28 PM
Auricaps do not have a "polarity" but one end is the outer winding of the capacitor, the red lead.  That end should be the output of the cap the black lead the input of the cap.  So for the interstage cap black to the 12AT7, red to the 2A3 grid.  For the Parafeed cap, black to the 2A3 plate and red to the transformer lead.

Here is their site:

http://www.audience-av.com/capacitors/a_applications.php
Actually, it's the black lead that is the outer foil. The outer foil should go to the source side, so Grainger's connections are correct.

For the curious, the outer foil generally goes to the lower impedance point so that any electric field noise (typically hum, sometimes radio frequency signals) that is picked up by the cap gets shunted to ground most easily. So in a power supply, the outer foil goes to ground, shielding the inner parts of the capacitor. In most audio circuits, the output impedance of one stage is much lower than the input impedance of the next stage so the outer foil goes to the signal source.

Paul Joppa


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Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
Hi Granger,

Thank you for the post. I think that I follow what you are saying but will post a photo for you to look at and confirm. Attached is a photo of how I plan to install them/. Can you please take a look at it and tell me if I am correct?

Brian



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Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 01:27:14 PM
Hi Paul,

Thanks for the reply. If I am on the right track... The terminal connections are:
4.0/600v
1L Black / 5L Red
11L Red / 15L Black

0.1 600v
2U Black / 4U Red
12U Red / 14U Black

Correct?

Brian



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Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 01:59:22 PM
Brian,

It looks to me that the larger Auricaps are right.  What I can't see is where the wires on the terminal strips go for the smaller Auricaps.  Like I said, with the smaller cap one lead, black, goes to the driver the red lead to the 2A3. 

My amps are Paramours, an earlier mono-block version of the Stereomour.



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Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 06:14:49 PM
Hi Paul,

Thanks for the reply. If I am on the right track... The terminal connections are:
4.0/600v
1L Black / 5L Red
11L Red / 15L Black

0.1 600v
2U Black / 4U Red
12U Red / 14U Black

Correct?

Brian

Yes, you have it.

Paul Joppa


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Reply #7 on: May 31, 2011, 01:48:58 AM
That is how I have my Auricaps aligned (but it is great to have the theory and confirmation from folks who know best).  http://www.bottlehead.com/smf/index.php/topic,849.30.html

John

John Kessel
Hawthorne Audio AMT K2 Reference Speakers
Paramount 300B w/MQ All Nickel Iron,  Mundorf S/G 5.5 uF,  and  Vcap Teflon .1 uF
Auralic Taurus Preamp/Auralic Vega DAC/Auralic Aries Streamer
and lots of room treatments!


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Reply #8 on: May 31, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
Granger, Paul and InfernoSTI;

Thank you all. I'll be sticking them in sometime this week.

Brian



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Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 12:57:43 PM
Granger, Paul and InfernoSTI;

Thank you all. I'll be sticking them in sometime this week.

Brian


Did you install them? Like them?



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Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 02:46:30 PM
Hi Wilberforce,

Yes I did install the new caps Saturday. At the same time I installed a different volume control. I have not fired the amp up yet so I do not know what it sounds like. If you are considering doing the same thing with your amp... be forewarned that the cap are BIG and I mean BIG. If you like I can post a comparison photo to show you how BIG they are. 

I'll be giving the amp a once over this weekend then I'll be firing it up on Sunday. I'll let you know what my ears think then...

I have a few issues with the rig right now... Turntable died and I am trying to figure out what to do about that. I also have a new pre on the way for my "other" rig...

Brian

 



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Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 07:44:53 AM
They are beefy--there's a pic earlier in the thread. Please post a pic of them installed once you do it.

And, I'm still curious about the difference in sound...



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Reply #12 on: June 16, 2011, 01:20:40 PM
Wilberforce,

What I'll do this weekend is shoot a photo of them in there temporary home. I didn't shorten the leads yet ;-) . I'll put the original caps by them so you can see just how big the suckers are. I did go with 4.0/600v caps... 

I am a bit concerned about how to place them without rubbing again the bottom of the input selector... you will see what I am talking about in the photo.

Brian



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Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 06:41:58 PM
I went "up" which becomes "down" rather than out....

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hawthorneaudio.com%2Fphotos%2Falbums%2Fuserpics%2F11473%2Fnormal_photo-222.JPG&hash=2f6379488e70ee7be9e2c07cd5b9eec16a9fccbd)

John

Wilberforce,

What I'll do this weekend is shoot a photo of them in there temporary home. I didn't shorten the leads yet ;-) . I'll put the original caps by them so you can see just how big the suckers are. I did go with 4.0/600v caps... 

I am a bit concerned about how to place them without rubbing again the bottom of the input selector... you will see what I am talking about in the photo.

Brian

John Kessel
Hawthorne Audio AMT K2 Reference Speakers
Paramount 300B w/MQ All Nickel Iron,  Mundorf S/G 5.5 uF,  and  Vcap Teflon .1 uF
Auralic Taurus Preamp/Auralic Vega DAC/Auralic Aries Streamer
and lots of room treatments!


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Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 11:33:46 PM
John,

I have a number of "dangling" capacitors.  It harms nothing.  Next you should try breaking in a Kommie Kap Teflon and bypassing your existing with it.  They are cheap, excellent sounding and add sparkle to most systems. 

You can break them in then test with alligator clip jumpers.  I did the first time.  It allowed me to put them in and out several times to verify what I heard.  Since I just solder them in because they always make a positive difference in my system.