Tube Rolling w/Crack

Dr. Toobz · 750059

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Paul Joppa

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 5768
Reply #1020 on: January 09, 2015, 03:10:27 PM
6520 is a 6AS7 with matched sections and high reliability.

Paul Joppa


Offline InXcesS

  • Newbie
  • *
    • Posts: 2
Reply #1021 on: January 10, 2015, 10:14:30 AM
What do you guys think about the Tesla 12AU7?



Offline John EH

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 358
Reply #1022 on: January 11, 2015, 08:16:35 AM
Still messing around with these Svetlana Winged C 6H13C.  Usually I just give up on a tube when I don't like it's sound.  One thing I noticed was my 12AU7 installed was a clear top. I replaced it with a Mullard Box Plate CV4003 and then just left the amp on for a couple days.

Things are much improved.  Thinking about just leaving this tube in to save my highly overpriced Western Electric 421A. Recently lost a metal base 5AR4 on another amp that would cost a bundle to replace.  I really need to get used to listening to newer production tubes and quit playing around spending money on uber tubes.

This Winged C is good enough with burn in and a good companion 12AU7 tube.



Offline borism

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 158
Reply #1023 on: January 11, 2015, 09:55:18 AM
That's interesting John. I also put the Svetlana Winged C back in replacing the Chatham 2399. It is paired with a Mullard CV4003 and find it is sounding more mellow but still very pleasing.

Boris


Offline JamieMcC

  • Hero Member
  • *****
    • Posts: 1167
Reply #1024 on: January 11, 2015, 11:42:35 AM
If you have the E80cc its a nice pairing with the Svetlana Winged C 6H13C

Shoot for the moon if you miss you will still be amongst the stars!


Offline borism

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 158
Reply #1025 on: January 11, 2015, 12:04:09 PM
I don't have any E80cc but have some Mazda/Cifte and Radiotechnique 12AU7s. Given the more mellow presentation of the Svetlana Winged C it may be a nice combo since I find those 12AU7s livelier than the Mullard. I'll have to try.

Boris


Offline russell_janab

  • Jr. Member
  • **
    • Posts: 13
Reply #1026 on: January 12, 2015, 12:11:36 PM
I just finished my amp build about week go and recently added Speedball. I am simply blown away by the performance of my 650's

Obviously now I have an appetite to experiment further! my kit originally comes with the 6080

can anyone comment on their experience with replacing the 6080 with any of the ones below:

6AS7G
6H13C
5998
7236
6N13

All comments welcome and thank you in advance!



Offline Nathan

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 204
Reply #1027 on: January 12, 2015, 04:35:13 PM
I have the stock 6080 plus a 6as7ga and a 5998. I listen mostly via the 5998.

Crack/Speedball, SEX 2.1/C4S, Bryston BHA-1

Sennheiser HD600/Cardas cable, Beyerdynamic T1 2nd Gen, Hifimam HE560/Hifiman balanced cable


Offline Nathan

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 204
Reply #1028 on: January 13, 2015, 01:11:48 PM
I am wondering about my tubes. Pre Speedball I ran Tung Sol 5998 and Mullard 12au7. By all accounts fine NOS tubes.

Now with the speedball, the bass is clearly better. Yet I'm also thinking that the overall presentation got a touch brighter too-

I substituted the 5998 with a nos GE 6as7ga I have and in fact the slight brightness I not on the crack/speedball/5998 isn't their. And the 5998 is a lovely tube- maybe it's the Mullard I'm hearing? I have an RCA clear top but that tube is a touch bright to start with so I wasn't going to throw that into the mix.

Pre Speedball, the 5998/12au7 combo was superb. What do people use with the speedball?

By the way, I have perhaps 1 hour of listening time on the speedball, so maybe it's still pretty green.

Thanks all!
« Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 01:22:49 PM by Nathan »

Crack/Speedball, SEX 2.1/C4S, Bryston BHA-1

Sennheiser HD600/Cardas cable, Beyerdynamic T1 2nd Gen, Hifimam HE560/Hifiman balanced cable


Offline Jimb0

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 289
Reply #1029 on: January 13, 2015, 03:01:49 PM
Hi Nathan,

I'm using the Tung Sol 5998 as well with Amperex Bugle Boys 12au7's and CBS Hytron 5814's. I've been very happy with both so far. I cannot comment no the Mullard's as I have not heard them.

Have you considered retrofitting the input tube so you can use other tubes like the 12BH7/5687/7119's. A few Crack users here say it is a far better sounding tube than the 12au7's. I'm looking into modding mine for those specific tubes.

EDIT: Btw, I've never had any problems with the brightness on both Amperex BB's and the CBS Hytron's.

Jim
« Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 04:29:21 PM by Jimb0 »



Offline Nathan

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 204
Reply #1030 on: January 13, 2015, 04:30:54 PM
I'm considering a 12bh7, particularly since with the Speedball, it's a straight swap

Crack/Speedball, SEX 2.1/C4S, Bryston BHA-1

Sennheiser HD600/Cardas cable, Beyerdynamic T1 2nd Gen, Hifimam HE560/Hifiman balanced cable


Offline Strikkflypilot

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 459
  • Shellac fiddler
Reply #1031 on: January 13, 2015, 09:09:18 PM
I do not believe it is a straight swap, as the plate voltage would be low(terminals 1 and 5), there is a thread on retrofitting for the 12bh7, E80CC...
« Last Edit: January 13, 2015, 09:10:55 PM by Strikkflypilot »

Home system:
Sources: Ibasso DX90, Google Chromecast Audio optical out
DAC: Schiit Gumby
Amp: Bottlehead Mainline
http://bottlehead.com/smf/index.php?topic=7463.0
Phones: HD800S

Office:
Sources: Iphone/ Ipod
DAC: Dragonfly Red+Jtrbug
Amp: Crack/Speedball heavily modded
Phones: HD580,HD600 grilles


Offline Jimb0

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 289
Reply #1032 on: January 14, 2015, 08:26:21 AM
I'm considering a 12bh7, particularly since with the Speedball, it's a straight swap

Yes, you'll need to do some modding in order for the 12BH7 to run at the proper voltages.




Offline Rocketman248

  • Full Member
  • ***
    • Posts: 156
Reply #1033 on: January 15, 2015, 12:38:35 AM
Built the Crack about two weeks ago.  Went shopping in Tokyo today, and picked up a few goodies.  My first foray into tube rolling.

Nick DeBrita
Yokosuka, Japan


Offline Jimb0

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
    • Posts: 289
Reply #1034 on: January 15, 2015, 12:32:18 PM
Built the Crack about two weeks ago.  Went shopping in Tokyo today, and picked up a few goodies.  My first foray into tube rolling.

Very nice Rocketman! Welcome to the club! Hope you are enjoying your music :)

Jim