Tube Rolling w/Crack

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Offline adydula

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Reply #1215 on: July 14, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
Thanks...that sounds good to me...compared to the recent "new" JJ 12AU7 they sound pretty much the same to me.

Alex



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Reply #1216 on: July 20, 2015, 08:14:49 AM
One of my 6AS7G tubes is very sensitive and emits a low buzz that I can detect easily. It goes thru several buzz's and wierd sounds while heating up...after 20-40 mins it seem to get better but any real movement or tapping on it you can hear the buzzing sound, its definitely in the tube....even tapping or moving my pc mouse around the amp causes it to hiccup at times!

I had the vendor send a replacement that is a 1948 JAN 6A7SG, that arrived today and I am listening to it at the moment and its like night and day stable and its perfectly quiet!!! Absolutley stunning!!

I called the vendor to see if they had anymore of the JAN tubes...for $15 its a real deal!

Alex



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Reply #1217 on: July 21, 2015, 12:18:51 AM
Hello all,

This is a bit of a stupid question that I am sure has been answered before many times.
Is it fine to drop a Tung-sol 5998 tube straight into a stock Bottlehead crack?
I am not sure if the first post covers the Crack without the Speed-ball upgrade.
Sorry for the stupid question, but I would appreciate a reply.



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Reply #1218 on: July 21, 2015, 12:40:32 AM
Check the first post of this thread.  It lists all drop in equivalents.



Offline adydula

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Reply #1219 on: July 21, 2015, 08:43:19 AM
I just got a Thompson - CSF 6080WA made in france  from, parts connexion in Canada...

$11 with shipping to my door!! A great deal...

Is very solid and stable no bad tendenacies at all.

Not microphonic, no buzzing or wierd noises in the background...

It sounds like the other tubes to me.....no real difference.

Alex





Offline Chris65

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Reply #1220 on: July 21, 2015, 11:47:09 AM
Check the first post of this thread.  It lists all drop in equivalents.

Not quite, it's missing 13D5 & 2399 (maybe others?)



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Reply #1221 on: July 21, 2015, 12:17:46 PM
Ok but it is up to the OP to update it.  Or, maybe you could get a moderator to update it.



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Reply #1222 on: July 22, 2015, 11:20:41 PM
hi guys,

I'm planning to get a CBS/Hytron 5814A tube for my Crack after reading many positive feedback on this tube. I've searched for a few days on Ebay and all I found was this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5814A-CBS-Hytron-12AU7A-Tube-NOS-Tube-Black-Curved-Ladder-Plates-D-Getter-50s-/201367997999?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2ee277ce2f

Is this tube the famous CBS/Hytron 5814A that everyone has been mentioning?

Cheers,
Kratos.



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Reply #1223 on: July 24, 2015, 08:40:08 AM
(headphones: HD600) I recently got a Winged C tube in and paired with the RCA Clear Top 12AU7, it's blowing my mind compared to the 5998. The soundstage is significantly improved, and I feel like it's much much more musical compared to the 5998's linearity. The 5998 is more dynamic and detailed in general, but the Winged C is so much more enjoyable. It also responds to the input tube completely differently...
 
Listening with the 5998, my take on my 12AU7 tubes are:
 
RCA Clear Top: bright and revealing with a good timbre but lacking bass entirely, so meh (worth noting that the 5998/RCA combo with HD650 was absolutely jaw dropping)
Genalex Gold Lion: Awesome soundstage, great bass slam, rich mids, slightly recessed treble, spectacular for rock and metal
Amperex made-in-Holland: Totally natural through and through, sweet sound, the only choice for classical/jazz/anything well produced
 
Now with the Winged C, it's become:
 
RCA Clear Top: amazingly clear and revealing and dynamic, incredible timbre and soundstage I didn't know HD600 were capable of, no lack of bass at all
Genalex Gold Lion: meh, a little too mid-centric IMO
Amperex made-in-Holland: warm, smooth, and sweet... still need more time for more
 
The range of sound available from the Crack-HD600 combination is incredible! Not to mention that the Winged C/RCA combo is so absolutely one of the best and most lifelike things I've ever heard. I was finding it hard to get work done last night because I was just so breathless from how good everything sounded. Definitely too revealing for poorly produced music, although I'd swear the 5998/Gold Lion combo can make bad recordings sound like good recordings.
 
Still keeping my eye out for a good price on a Tung Sol 7236 then I swear I'm done buying (power) tubes for this thing and it's on to 6SN7 input tubes... when does it end?!



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Reply #1224 on: August 03, 2015, 08:55:12 AM
Hello good people. I built my Crack with couple of years ago, upgraded it later with speedball. I had some problems after speedball, and just dusted and repaired it with a friend (thanks to bottlehead for quick delivery of led´s!) about a week ago after it sitting for 1,5 years. I also purchased second hand HD 600 with Cardas smurf blue cable.

I had a problem with low hum in the right channel, but the amp went dead silent after i switched the original 12AU7 with Philips ECC82 i had lying around. But after listening it for some, i have a little urge to get more body or punchiness to the sound. What would be a good budget upgrade to the tubes, to achieve that?



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Reply #1225 on: August 03, 2015, 05:21:26 PM
Is this tube the famous CBS/Hytron 5814A that everyone has been mentioning?

While that one might be made by Hytron, the ones that folks talk about have red lettering with angled square/D getters that point about 30-45 degrees upwards. The black plates seem to be more well regarded.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Of-2-NOS-CBS-Hytron-JHY-5814-12AU7-Black-Plate-Same-DC-Tubes-TV7-Tested-/381351365861?hash=item58ca500ce5

Rob Cheng


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Reply #1226 on: August 05, 2015, 06:22:36 AM
hello! Can I use mullard NOS e88cc / cv 2492 tubes in the input stage for the crack? :)



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Reply #1227 on: August 05, 2015, 09:01:10 AM
hello! Can I use mullard NOS e88cc / cv 2492 tubes in the input stage for the crack? :)

In a word, no. The e88cc / CV2492 is a substitute for the 6922 and 6DJ8 not a 12AU7. You should try and stick to the list of tubes on page one of this thread.



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Reply #1228 on: August 09, 2015, 01:46:21 AM
Well against my "wallet" I bid on an Amperex Bugle Boy 12AU7:

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Amperex-Bugle-Boy-12AU7-ECC82-Grey-Plate-Holland-Tube-TV7-Tested-/201400059569?

date code GF8 â–²6J2

Know I need to find out how to read these date codes!!

Alex



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Reply #1229 on: August 09, 2015, 04:02:35 PM
I was at a friend's house today and Listened to  Audeze EL-8's and HD800's. Admittedly the amplification was quite different than my Crack.  Listened to hi def digital through a Chord Hugo dac/headphone amp. However, gotta say, the HD800's were supremely comfortable and sounded great (I have HD 600's)

Anyone using HD800's? If so wondering what's your tube compliment.

Thanks

Crack/Speedball, SEX 2.1/C4S, Bryston BHA-1

Sennheiser HD600/Cardas cable, Beyerdynamic T1 2nd Gen, Hifimam HE560/Hifiman balanced cable