An alternate 36v supply... (9v are sooo expensive!)

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Offline Noskipallwd

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Reply #30 on: July 26, 2012, 06:40:07 AM
You got it Jim, I always like a chance to play with my toys. Grainger thanks for the link, that's some great info.

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Reply #31 on: July 26, 2012, 06:50:53 AM
Shawn,

AAA came to swap my wife's flat with the spare as I was about to post so this got delayed 40 minutes.

Nope, my gray hair ate into my brain cells and I forgot to paste the link I had saved.

I edited my previous post adding the link for better continuity.  

The 'scope method is dead on.  The azimuth is right when you get the best balance between right and left channels.  That is a null when you are inverting and adding.  The same thing goes for anti-skating.  If the stylus rides one groove more than another, you get the same kind of imbalance.  If you have both of them off neither will really zero.  Then you have to tweak them down till you get zero on both azimuth and anti-skating.

I like it because it is pragmatic, logical and you can see it working.  This is the same method used by the Fosgometer.
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Reply #32 on: August 09, 2012, 03:45:28 PM
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It's shocking how good this combo sounds!  I use the Quickie with my home-made tube amp based on the Dynaco ST35.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi576.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss207%2Fcorndog642%2FBottlehead%2520Quickie%2F3019b285.jpg&hash=522b5b352a2f86cb545c986f70528a89071f8ab3)
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Reply #33 on: August 09, 2012, 04:26:54 PM
Rob,

That looks like the back of my stereo when it was tri-amplified.  Wires everywhere! 

You charge the batteries in parallel, right?


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Reply #34 on: August 09, 2012, 05:26:27 PM
Nah, I just charge them one at a time.  I don't get to listen as often as I'd like so I have the time.  I have a CTEK 800 smart charger which does a great job.

The quickie doesn't draw that much power.  I even left it on by accident for almost a day and the batteries didn't even drop 1 volt.

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Reply #35 on: August 09, 2012, 05:51:49 PM
@corndog71, I LOVE those pictures! That's what it's all about, experimenting and having a ball doing it. Quickie hit the market specifically to return to an aspect of the original Foreplay - something so cheap you can feel relaxed about playing around with it, yet with some decent sonic potential.

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Reply #36 on: August 09, 2012, 06:15:33 PM
I do like the look of the 12V's in series! Quite massive!

Eric
Emotiva XPA-2, Magnepan MMG (mod), Quickie (mod), JRiver, Wyrd4sound uLink, Schiit Gungnir, JPS Digital power cord, MIT power cord, JPS Labs ultraconductor wire throughout, HSU sub. powered by Crown.

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Reply #37 on: August 09, 2012, 06:38:52 PM
Quote from: earwaxxer on July 24, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
Greg - I could get into dual mono controls. Honestly I feel there would be a very real use for them, beyond pure paranoia etc. I frequently 'think' that one channel is louder than the other. I can easily move the MMG's an inch or two forward or back to compensate. I bring them 'out' to listen anyway. I wouldnt be able to do that with 150lb speakers. The 3s4's are rarely matched.

At times I too feel the same way. Strangely, if I have changed or not broken in a cable and put them in then my left channel gets louder and it takes a few days for it to settle down. This happens irrespective of the amp/source config. Maybe a dual in the quickie may help.

shreekant :)

system 1. oppo, quickie,SEX 2.1 ( V cap), Decware DFR8 in ZOB cabs
System 2. Tascam cd200, Terra Dac,Zbox,Decware Zen amp(V cap) Lowther PM6A in Acousta horns.
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Reply #38 on: September 10, 2012, 09:19:36 AM
Quote from: corndog71 on May 09, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: coca on May 09, 2012, 01:53:13 PM
Has anyone thought about using three 12volt...

Bernie.

Yep.

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Looking at doing this. How did they work? Sound?
Cheers,
Geary

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Reply #39 on: September 10, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
Quote from: galyons on September 10, 2012, 09:19:36 AM

Looking at doing this. How did they work? Sound?
Cheers,
Geary

They work very well.  After a month of almost daily use they're still holding steady at around 37 volts.  As for the sound I'm not 100% sure it was the batteries but the quickie seems to sound a bit more relaxed than before.  If there's any audible difference it's very subtle.

I didn't do it for sound quality.  I wanted to save money as I was going through a lot of 9V batteries!  For what I spent on the Power Sonics (around $55 from Amazon) I figure they'll start saving me money after about a year of use.  I wish they made 1.5V batteries that hold a charge as well as these do.

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Reply #40 on: September 10, 2012, 01:35:34 PM
cool - the zen of lead/acid! Might be fun to try.

Eric
Emotiva XPA-2, Magnepan MMG (mod), Quickie (mod), JRiver, Wyrd4sound uLink, Schiit Gungnir, JPS Digital power cord, MIT power cord, JPS Labs ultraconductor wire throughout, HSU sub. powered by Crown.

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Reply #41 on: September 10, 2012, 02:41:06 PM
That's great. Wasn't expecting a huge sonic improvement!  Just didn't want the sound to go south!!!  The SLA batteries are next on my list!  Tired of the 9v burn!!

Cheers,
Geary

Quote from: corndog71 on September 10, 2012, 01:16:36 PM

They work very well.  After a month of almost daily use they're still holding steady at around 37 volts.  As for the sound I'm not 100% sure it was the batteries but the quickie seems to sound a bit more relaxed than before.  If there's any audible difference it's very subtle.

I didn't do it for sound quality.  I wanted to save money as I was going through a lot of 9V batteries!  For what I spent on the Power Sonics (around $55 from Amazon) I figure they'll start saving me money after about a year of use.  I wish they made 1.5V batteries that hold a charge as well as these do.

VPI TNT IV/JMW 3D 12+Benz LP-S>  Eros + Auralic Aries + ANK Dac 4.1 >Eros TH+ Otari MX5050 IIIB2 > BeePre >Paramount 300B 7N7 > EV Sentry IV-A

Thorens TD124/Ortofon RMG-212/SPU >Seduction > Smash^Up> Paramour 45 MQ >K12's

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Reply #42 on: September 10, 2012, 05:14:04 PM
Just a quick note here. We've been talking about development projects, and one of them is an AC power supply for Quickie. I have some ideas and am hoping for something that fits under the chassis easily. This is a long way from a product announcement, just a little hint for the enthusiasts who are following this thread.  :^)

The 300B preamp has reminded us how good directly heated filaments can sound, and we're starting to take Quickie more seriously. Many thanks to the Bottlehead community for their enthusiasm for this little "toy"!

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Reply #43 on: November 04, 2012, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: corndog71 on August 09, 2012, 03:45:28 PM
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It's shocking how good this combo sounds!  I use the Quickie with my home-made tube amp based on the Dynaco ST35.

(https://forum.bottlehead.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi576.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss207%2Fcorndog642%2FBottlehead%2520Quickie%2F3019b285.jpg&hash=522b5b352a2f86cb545c986f70528a89071f8ab3)

How have you got the batteries hooked up, I wonder if there would be a cool way to make them part of a chassis.

Mark


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Reply #44 on: November 04, 2012, 10:02:49 AM
Quote from: markc2 on November 04, 2012, 09:46:50 AM
Quote from: corndog71 on August 09, 2012, 03:45:28 PM

It's shocking how good this combo sounds!  I use the Quickie with my home-made tube amp based on the Dynaco ST35.
How have you got the batteries hooked up, I wonder if there would be a cool way to make them part of a chassis.
Mark

Nice looking stuff! How much power do you get from the Dynaco?

Eric
Emotiva XPA-2, Magnepan MMG (mod), Quickie (mod), JRiver, Wyrd4sound uLink, Schiit Gungnir, JPS Digital power cord, MIT power cord, JPS Labs ultraconductor wire throughout, HSU sub. powered by Crown.

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