Right channel noisy. Help troubleshooting

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Reply #30 on: December 21, 2021, 09:42:43 AM
A1.  56.8
A2. 366
A3. [no reading]
A4. 57

B1. 51.4
B2. [no reading]
B3. 51.6
B4. 51.6

Clearly there’s a problem.

I was over hasty and added those new caps after the resistance checked out. So that’s most likely where the problem is. I can put the Daytons back if you think that will help.

The one terminal with an off reading is 14, which has 301
« Last Edit: December 21, 2021, 09:55:42 AM by denti alligator »

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Reply #31 on: December 21, 2021, 09:58:35 AM
The 4 pin socket readings you have at B would have me wondering if that tube is properly installed, but at the same time seeing 366 and A2 tells me that you haven't done this on the B socket, but rather you likely need to remeasure. 

The [no reading] should be around 0V, and 0V is a reading.

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Reply #32 on: December 21, 2021, 10:00:18 AM
Yes, sorry. 0 for A2/B2.

That 14 terminal is a problem, though, right? Must be related to the resistor I replaced, no?

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Reply #33 on: December 21, 2021, 10:02:42 AM
Pin 2 is the plate and will carry the high voltage.  Pin 3 is the grid and will be approximately at 0V.

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Reply #34 on: December 21, 2021, 10:04:59 AM
Sorry, for A3/B3 I am getting about -0.17

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Reply #35 on: December 21, 2021, 10:05:57 AM
OK, that is correct. 

I would recheck pin 2.  It is highly improbable that you have ~60V on either of those. 

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Reply #36 on: December 21, 2021, 10:08:58 AM
Let me do it again. Sorry, I did mix up the pins.

A1.  53
A2. 366
A3. 0
A4. 53.1

B1. 54.7
B2. 356
B3. 0
B4. 54.8

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Reply #37 on: December 21, 2021, 10:13:48 AM
OK, the 2A3s are working properly.  What are the voltages on the metal tabs of the C4S driver boards?

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Reply #38 on: December 21, 2021, 10:14:40 AM
OK, the 2A3s are working properly.  What are the voltages on the metal tabs of the C4S driver boards?
Which tabs? All of them?

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Reply #39 on: December 21, 2021, 10:18:28 AM
Sure, you can list them as big board and small board.

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Reply #40 on: December 21, 2021, 10:20:50 AM
Big board

bA 0
bB 0

A +reg 310 and dropping
B + reg 305 steady

A1 384
B1 382

OA 303.8
OB 305


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Reply #41 on: December 21, 2021, 10:23:26 AM
Little board

OA 239.5
OB 301.5

1A 304.9
1B. 303.8

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Reply #42 on: December 21, 2021, 11:00:04 AM
Ok, that narrows things down a bit.  The regulator seems to be doing its job, but the OB on the small board tells us that the driver half of one 12AT7 isn't drawing any current.  This could be a loose resistor on pin 3 of the 9 pin socket under the small board, a bad solder joint on the small board (it doesn't matter if it has been working for x many months/years, it can still happen), a broken wire, or a loose resistor going to pin 2 on that same socket.

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Reply #43 on: December 21, 2021, 12:49:46 PM
OK, I reflowed 2 and 3 on the 9-pin. The LEDs for B on the small board are not lit up. What else can I try?

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Reply #44 on: December 21, 2021, 01:00:41 PM
I tried switching the 12AT7 tubes. Now the LEDs all light up. Maybe one of them wasn’t in right?

Voltages for small board are not even:

1A 354
1B 303.7

OA: 285.7
OB: 244.4

I also reflowed all connections on the small board
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